Titan 575

[Sierra Clean Care]

Anyone own one? Are they any good? I have a chance to pick up a low hr. machine, and all that comes with it, for a song…

Am I buying a headache?

 

[BIG WOOD]

Nah, it just doesn't perform as good as the 570, but its very user friendly. I put 2k hrs on mine before I sold it

 

[sassyotto]

I had a Prochem Apex and wanted to get a new TM and the 575 was the perfect fit.

Have had it 5 years now. Love it!

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

I had a Prochem Apex and wanted to get a new TM and the 575 was the perfect fit.

Have had it 5 years now. Love it!

Are there limitations to this TM? Problems?

 

[Living The Dream]

Are there limitations to this TM? Problems?

I've heard mixed reviews. I've heard great heat and vac, but I know a few people that have had issues with the chemical injection. The negatives aren't enough to stop me from picking one up if I came across a good deal though.

 

[SamIam]

It's got a Kubota engine water cooled so there's that.

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Well, as it stands, ‘I’ll sell it to you cheap’, doesn’t really mean anything…

I told him to come up with a number.

He wants 12k for it, it’s got 3475 hrs, and it needs a new heat exchanger.

HARD PASS…

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Well, as it stands, ‘I’ll sell it to you cheap’, doesn’t really mean anything…

I told him to come up with a number.

He wants 12k for it, it’s got 3475 hrs, and it needs a new heat exchanger.

HARD PASS…

Kubotas have been very good to us. The only problems past 5000 hours we've had were some oil pump failures, and issues with the coil packs. If you do buy it, or anything else with that engine, make sure you have a Kubota service center that will work on the gas engines.

We are fortunate to have one in our area, and he takes good care of our customers whenever there are internal issues that we don't care to deal with.

If the machine needs a new heat exchanger, it begs the question as to why; perhaps a freeze once happened. That devalues the unit a great deal too.

I'd say 8-10k IF the cause of the heat exchanger loss wasn't a freeze.

 

[sassyotto]

Are there limitations to this TM? Problems?

Only problems were:
-when new, float selinoid stuck open, filling the waste tank. HydraMaster sent a new one.
-fried wire
-loose wire
-needed a relay on the starter

thats it.

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Kubotas have been very good to us. The only problems past 5000 hours we've had were some oil pump failures, and issues with the coil packs. If you do buy it, or anything else with that engine, make sure you have a Kubota service center that will work on the gas engines.

We are fortunate to have one in our area, and he takes good care of our customers whenever there are internal issues that we don't care to deal with.

If the machine needs a new heat exchanger, it begs the question as to why; perhaps a freeze once happened. That devalues the unit a great deal too.

I'd say 8-10k IF the cause of the heat exchanger loss wasn't a freeze.

Hi Jim. Thanks for the reply.

OK, IF it was frozen, what can one expect to replace/repair?

And, if it had freeze damage, what would be a fair price?

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Only problems were:
-when new, float selinoid stuck open, filling the waste tank. HydraMaster sent a new one.
-fried wire
-loose wire
-needed a relay on the starter

thats it.

Thanks Paul (?).
Is this your main TM?

 

[sassyotto]

Thanks Paul (?).
Is this your main TM?

yes, O/O

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Hi Jim. Thanks for the reply.

OK, IF it was frozen, what can one expect to replace/repair?

And, if it had freeze damage, what would be a fair price?

Light freeze damage (a pressure gauge spun out, a cracked fitting, etc) is one thing. A "hard freeze" is quite another.

If a machine loses a heat exchanger, it has usually had a pretty severe freeze. This can be caused by expansion of water within the system, or if "slush" is present, then the unit is started, and the "slush" travels to a choke point (like a check valve), and creates excessive hydraulic pressure that burst everything before the check valve.

Once a unit has had a "hard freeze" or a "slush hydraulic" condition, there can be failures anywhere that delivers water for months, sometimes years to come. We've had units come in with leaks in brass fittings, hoses, and sensors that work within the water delivery system much later than the original freeze damage.

I wouldn't buy a freeze damaged unit due to the unpredictability of future costs.

A number?

The depreciated value of the machine, less the cost of heat exchanger(s), water pump, pressure regulator, sensors, pressure gauge, and hoses.

I know that sounds awful, but 50 years of owning/selling truck mounts has made me VERY gun shy of frozen machines.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

We've had units come in with leaks in brass fittings, hoses, and sensors that work within the water delivery system much later than the original freeze damage.

Update:

A customer who first froze his machine in February is coming in for his third service appointment since that time to replace yet another failed part.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

HARD PASS

I would!

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Yup, he confirmed today ‘it might have froze a little bit over a couple days’…

Laymen’s terms - I ruined my machine, and now want to dump the headache on someone else.

Some people’s kids…

 

[Rob Grady]

Light freeze damage (a pressure gauge spun out, a cracked fitting, etc) is one thing. A "hard freeze" is quite another.

If a machine loses a heat exchanger, it has usually had a pretty severe freeze. This can be caused by expansion of water within the system, or if "slush" is present, then the unit is started, and the "slush" travels to a choke point (like a check valve), and creates excessive hydraulic pressure that burst everything before the check valve.

Once a unit has had a "hard freeze" or a "slush hydraulic" condition, there can be failures anywhere that delivers water for months, sometimes years to come. We've had units come in with leaks in brass fittings, hoses, and sensors that work within the water delivery system much later than the original freeze damage.

I wouldn't buy a freeze damaged unit due to the unpredictability of future costs.

A number?

The depreciated value of the machine, less the cost of heat exchanger(s), water pump, pressure regulator, sensors, pressure gauge, and hoses.

I know that sounds awful, but 50 years of owning/selling truck mounts has made me VERY gun shy of frozen machines.

Plus the trouble shooting and repair labour time.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Laymen’s terms - I ruined my machine, and now want to dump the headache on someone else

"caveat emptor" is the one Latin phrase most of us understand, not from school, but from life.

The list of unpleasant surprises that cleaners have found after buying used units that were subsequently brought here for service include:

Freeze damage

Improper fuel hook ups

Bad installations

Best one: The water pump was missing....

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Today's late breaking news:

A guy brought in a van and unit bought used that "sat all winter at the guys place" was brought in because the buyer said:

"It won't start"

Easily fixed: Bad regulator and drained battery.

Started it up and the thing is a sprinkler system:

Freeze damaged pump head, hoses, fittings, pressure gauge.

Why guys buy machines without even having the seller start it is beyond me.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Especially when the pressure gauge right in front of you is a flag!! At least a Flag