Teach someone to use a 175

[Mikey P]

My church has a multi-surface use room with a sport court sorta set up with a welded seam sheet vinyl product.

The head of cleaning ministry asked me to show him how to keep up on the scuff marks himself
The Oreck Orbitor I have him just isn't cutting it.

He's fit but he's in his 70's...

Should be fun..


Got any tips?

 

[Jim Pemberton]

My church has a multi-surface use room with a sport court sorta set up with a welded seam sheet vinyl product.

The head of cleaning ministry asked me to show him how to keep up on the scuff marks himself
The Oreck Orbitor I have him just isn't cutting it.

He's fit but he's in his 70's...

Should be fun..


Got any tips?

I would think by now that running a 175 is second nature to you. Just show him how to balance it so that he can run it with on hand.... not that it is recommended to do it that way, just to prove the point that he doesn't need to fight it.

Once he gets the hang of it, it is less work than pushing a carpet wand for sure. That won't be a problem for a fit 70 year old as long as he doesn't have to lift or carry it.

"Back in the day" when I traveled the northeast and midwest showing truck mounts to guys, the hardest people to convert where shampoo guys, especially Chemstractor guys. Here I was with a heavy, stainless steel (unglided of course) carpet wand trying to show these scrubber guys "how easy" it was to clean with a truck mount.

It took cleaning restaurant carpet after closing hours to convince them.

 

[Cleanworks]

Starting on a vinyl floor with a little neutral detergent should be pretty easy. Takes about 5 minutes to get the hang of it, then it's just practice from there. We used to start guys on carpet with a shampoo brush. The office had holes in the wall to prove it.

 

[they live]

Lift the handle to go right.
Push down to go left.

Its pretty simple.

Wear gum bottom shoes to kick out the black marks between spray buffing to restore the shine.

We use to spray buff hallways weekly.
Gym floor monthly.
Work going forward to keep cord out of the way.

 

[Mikey P]

I would think by now that running a 175 is second nature to you

well certainly...


But training some can be a exciersize in frustration.

In this case he took to it quick, but in the end, I decided to just show up more often to clean the various flooring types thaerr as he, and his volunteer staff are overwhelmed.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Yes, of course do the normal stuff like you're gonna run it. Have him position the handle with your help at about waist high. Up or down a little for his comfort. I would use a white pad if you have one just for starters. Tell hem to brace himself, but not to much and you put your foot on the left side of the machine keeping it steady when he pulls the trigger. That's how I train a newby, even my 11 yr old to run a 175. You guide the machine
with your foot. Don't hurt yourself

 

[hogjowl]

Just put them in a confined space and tell them how to turn it on. Then laugh your ass off when the machine slams into a wall. Thats how I learned.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Not at 70! That's not fair! Diana learned
on a 13" and used every size for years. Way way to long!

 

[BIG WOOD]

Just put them in a confined space and tell them how to turn it on. Then laugh your ass off when the machine slams into a wall. Thats how I learned.

I hate it when you beat me to these answers. I was thinking the same thing

 

[Brian H]

I was taught how to use a 175 back in 1982. My trainer showed me how to put the T part of the handle on the top of my left thigh and use my body to move the machine. He left me alone breaking in a new brush on a cement floor positioned between some drums and other non breakable stuff. After fighting with it, I finally got it and that was my default method ever since.

 

[Mikey P]

Originally I was thinking of donating a 175 but realizing only one person could use it safely and reliably he and I then discuss finding him a used op machine and an hour or two into the various vinyl type rooms that I was helping them with that day I realize I just need to show up at least once a month and clean whatever's needed.

With the microfiber pads being amazingly effective and providing such beautiful results on almost all vinyl products with just a neutral cleaner.


And of course the Wednesday night meeting was all about giving back to God via Exodus 25.

 

[SamIam]

Starting on a vinyl floor with a little neutral detergent should be pretty easy. Takes about 5 minutes to get the hang of it, then it's just practice from there. We used to start guys on carpet with a shampoo brush. The office had holes in the wall to prove it.

Yeah it's always funny how people think they're going to out muscle and won't let go.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

When you let go it turns around and hits you
in the side Blocking the torque is still the best method.

 

[dazzle]

What will do the least damage but give good agitation on a worn commercial carpet under a 175 ?
I have a pad driver and nylon brush
I would like something more aggressive and faster than my 10" CRB

 

[Nate The Great]

What will do the least damage but give good agitation on a worn commercial carpet under a 175 ?
I have a pad driver and nylon brush
I would like something more aggressive and faster than my 10" CRB

Good Gawd, anything's faster than a 10" crb..

I'd use a fiber pad or the nylon brush under the 175.. Lube/prespray well..

 

[dazzle]

Good Gawd, anything's faster than a 10" crb..

I'd use a fiber pad or the nylon brush under the 175.. Lube/prespray well..

Red pad vs nylon brush
Any idea which is more likely to pull fibers out?

 

[Mikey P]

You should be able to find a used 175 locally for cheap..

 

[dazzle]

I have a couple 175's
There are some areas on this commercial carpet that are quite worn and I am not sure which is more likely to pull fiber out of the worn areas.
What is more likely to pull fibers out of a worn carpet a red pad or a nylon bristled brush?

 

[Kenny Hayes]

A brush if it's impacted for sure.

 

[dazzle]

A brush if it's impacted for sure.

I thing a brush will get into the carpets and remove more deep soil.

The question on which to use is not about which will be more effective

I need to know which will be least likely to add to the wear in the bad areas?
I want to get the best result I can without making the areas look more worn

 

[they live]

I thing a brush will get into the carpets and remove more deep soil.

The question on which to use is not about which will be more effective

I need to know which will be least likely to add to the wear in the bad areas?
I want to get the best result I can without making the areas look more worn

The brush might lift the worn areas making them look better. Both can cause damage. Just get the area wet before trying either.
A new pad or a new brush will be much more aggressive. Make sure they are broke in first.
I would go with the brush.
If you fray the fibers or they are already frayed use napping shears or scissors to clean it up. If fibers are pulled out completely I leave a little sticking out and use a lighter to melt them and push them into place while still hot to seal them so they dont unravel again. You can repair small spots like seams that way too.